Plating Powder Coating Buffing Anodizing - Caswell Inc. Metal Finishing Forum  

Go Back   Plating Powder Coating Buffing Anodizing - Caswell Inc. Metal Finishing Forum > Electroplating Questions

Notices

Electroplating Questions Discussion Board For Electroplating and Electroless plating.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 03-28-2005, 05:25 PM
Newbie
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 2
modadds
Default removing zinc

I have a small hubcap that goes on an antique tricycle and will be nickel plated. The reproduction hubcap look like it has a zinc coating on it. How can I tell if it is zinc and is it easy to get off . I don't want to contaminate my plating solution.
Mike wedein
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 04-08-2005, 12:45 AM
Amateur Metal Finisher
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Florida
Posts: 69
gsw3 is on a distinguished road
Default

Apply a small drop of muriatic acid on the plated surface.
If it fizzes it is zinc.

To strip off all the zinc, mix up a 25% solution of muriatic acid and water (always add acid to water when mixing!).
Dip the part into the above acid bath.
When the part stops fizzing the zinc will be stripped off. Should take no more then 2 minutes.
Don’t leave the steel part in the above solution longer then necessary as it will start to pit the steel (will look almost as if it where sand blasted or worse).
Rinse well with water, scrub the part with Dawn dishwashing detergent (the blue liquid type), rinse again and dry the part.
The part will start flash rusting quickly. The best way I have found to prevent this is to lightly wire brush the steel part with a fine wire wheel (or a blue Nylox) brush.

Buff the part to a killer chrome like shine.
Wash well, (don’t touch the part with your bare hands, hook the hanger wire to the part during the wash procedure and hold the wire during rinsing), be sure it passes the water break test during rinsing (the water should sheet, not bead up on the part).

Dip the part in nickel pickle (50/50 solution of battery acid and water) for 30 seconds.
Rinse with distilled water for 30 seconds.
Go hot (the part electrically connected) into the nickel bath.
Nickel plate for at least an hour @ 65-75Ma per sq. in.
Use large air bubble agitation in your tank (no wimpy air stones).
Be sure you use a large anode (at least as large as the part and (2) anodes on either side of the tank works best).
Whatever you do, don't break electrical contact during plating or lift the part out to "check it" as the plating will peel off.


George W.
I plate Acid Copper, Nickel, CopyChrome, Silver and 24ct Gold.
No “real” chrome.
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 04-10-2005, 11:54 AM
Moderator
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Texas
Posts: 269
dadkar2 is on a distinguished road
Default

If the part is steel you might want to plate up with copper first. It is 10x easier to buff copper than it is to buff steel.

Ken
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 04-10-2005, 11:37 PM
Amateur Metal Finisher
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Florida
Posts: 69
gsw3 is on a distinguished road
Default

Ken, you are (of course) correct .
However, I was assuming he did not have the copper plating kit.

Also, if he is not using flash copper he will have to do a nickel strike plate of at least 1/2 hour prior to using acid copper (for his info, I know you know that).

I go an hour on the strike because I like the nickel thick incase I sand through the first acid copper layer.
The extra thickness of the nickel insures I won't sand through into the steel base material.

One of these days I will have to get some flash copper to bypass the nickel strike.

Which brings up a question, (Ken or anyone else) what do you thing as far as the durability?
Nickel/copper/nickel verses flash copper/nickel.
Which would hold up better on outside use (motorcycle items)?


George W.
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 04-11-2005, 02:13 AM
Moderator
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Texas
Posts: 269
dadkar2 is on a distinguished road
Default

George,

There won't be any difference in the durability. You'll need slightly more time in the tank. But frankly having worked with both, I think the flash copper (alkaline copper) yields a nicer, smoother finish for polishing and plating over later.

Ken
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Zinc plating on running seal surface? Broke Electroplating Questions 1 12-06-2004 02:52 PM
CopyCad & Zinc failure - electrolyte problems? seanc Electroplating Questions 4 11-08-2004 10:16 AM
Black Zinc Coatings XK120DHC Electroplating Questions 4 07-14-2004 09:22 PM
How dark is the olive drab? + zinc question. jbvan Electroplating Questions 4 02-01-2003 02:12 AM
Dull zinc wanted... fargap Electroplating Questions 1 09-28-2002 01:47 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:04 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.2.0
Copyright © Caswell Inc.