http://forum.caswellplating.com/ en Thu, 09 Sep 2010 07:12:15 GMT vBulletin 60 http://forum.caswellplating.com/images/misc/rss.png http://forum.caswellplating.com/ http://forum.caswellplating.com/oven-building-forum/11821-need-some-info-building-oven.html Thu, 09 Sep 2010 00:01:24 GMT Hello everybody, I just reveived my PC startup equipment and I am interested in building an oven and adding powder coating to my business. I have been reading around on a bunch of forums trying to gather as much info as I can. I send Teds Fab an email on Tuesday and I was just wondering about how... Hello everybody, I just reveived my PC startup equipment and I am interested in building an oven and adding powder coating to my business. I have been reading around on a bunch of forums trying to gather as much info as I can. I send Teds Fab an email on Tuesday and I was just wondering about how long it takes to receive a reply back? But I will post some of my questions here to see If anybody here can help me out.

I have been looking at Teds control boxes listed on ebay as well as some of the other parts he uses on his ovens listed on his web site. Here are a couple questions I have if anybody can help out.

Are the 4, 3200 watt heaters the largest you can run with the 2, 40 amp magnetic contact relays, or would I be able to run 4, 3800 watt heaters on those relays? I plan to start out with powder coating but would like to add ceramics also a little while down the road, I like to plan ahead. I was thinking about possibly building a 4x4x6 oven (maybe 3x4x6) and adding in a insulated shelf maybe 2' from the top of the unit when doing ceramics. I have thrown some other numbers around as well in the calculators online to try and figure this out.

Would it be possible to have 2 heater switches on the control box? 1 switch for the 2 main heaters for powder coating and 1 switch for the 2 secondary heaters for when I start doing ceramics? Or could all 4 just always run, cooler when powder coating and then they would crank up the heat with ceramics?

Would it also be possible to run the 3 elements on 1 power switch and then 1 extra element on a second switch or would that require a different magnetic contact relay other than what Teds boxes normally use? This is not a big deal 2 and 2 would probably work fine rather than 3 and 1.

I would like to keep the amps under 40-50 max when powder coating but when doing ceramics it could go over that (I will probably add the 2 extra heat elements later on for ceramics but want to have the controls there ready to go.)

I know I will also want to add a light inside and possibly a fan that Ted sells if it can withstand the ceramic temps. Does having a fan circulating the air effect the finish of the powder coating at all such as creating runs or anything like that?

Does Teds control box come with the connectors to connect the elements to high temp wire?

Thanks for any help. ]]> Oven Building Forum slammedxonair http://forum.caswellplating.com/oven-building-forum/11821-need-some-info-building-oven.html http://forum.caswellplating.com/oven-building-forum/11809-picking-out-correct-pid.html Sat, 04 Sep 2010 00:41:04 GMT Hi everyone, I am making plans to build my first PCing oven and I am trying to pick out the appropriate PID. I am going to be using 2 1500 watt elements with SSRs. When I am shopping around there seems to be so many options for them. What options do I have to have for an oven? I'm still working out the details but I am going to wire for 220V in the garage. They range in pricing from 20 bucks to 200. I guess I am just looking for the bare minimum that I need. Any help is appreciated!

Thanks
Terry ]]> Oven Building Forum rtcc http://forum.caswellplating.com/oven-building-forum/11809-picking-out-correct-pid.html http://forum.caswellplating.com/oven-building-forum/11808-picking-out-correct-pid.html Sat, 04 Sep 2010 00:35:12 GMT Hi everyone, I am making plans to build my first PCing oven and I am trying to pick out the appropriate PID. I am going to be using 2 1500 watt elements with SSRs. When I am shopping around there seems to be so many options for them. What options do I have to have for an oven? I'm still working out the details but I am going to wire for 220V in the garage. They range in pricing from 20 bucks to 200. I guess I am just looking for the bare minimum that I need. Any help is appreciated!

Thanks
Terry ]]> Oven Building Forum rtcc http://forum.caswellplating.com/oven-building-forum/11808-picking-out-correct-pid.html http://forum.caswellplating.com/oven-building-forum/11807-pid-went-out-replaced-back-up-now-contactors-not-cycling-need-help.html Fri, 03 Sep 2010 23:54:55 GMT Had a oven full of suspension parts, and noticed the PID from (Ted's) was flashing a err/alarm across the display, and noticed the temp had fallen to around 300. Long story short, I replaced the the PID with a back up auberins pid 2362 I purchased, for this very reason.

The back up is a little different, but we got it wired in and all was good...
EXCEPT the contactors will not cycle... I hear them come on when I flip the heater switch on, but again, they wont cycle and it has be frustrated.. Have a ton of stuff to get done.

The control box I have is Ted's. Everything is exactly as sent to me, except for the new PID..
Where is a good place to look first to trouble shoot?

I noticed Teds PID came ready to go. Simply flip on the power, wait until the out light comes on, then flip the heater switch on...
Shouldnt this PID be the same.. I see the out light come on, and it flashes, but the temperature keeps on going.

I did ohm out the contactors and all is good there as well.
Thanks for any help! ]]> Oven Building Forum wmff82 http://forum.caswellplating.com/oven-building-forum/11807-pid-went-out-replaced-back-up-now-contactors-not-cycling-need-help.html http://forum.caswellplating.com/oven-building-forum/11804-pid-contactor-wiring-help-needed-asap.html Thu, 02 Sep 2010 17:01:45 GMT Long story short my old oven control setup Bit the dust...LOL So i bought these parts: SYL-2342 PID From Auberins •Model: CN-PBC402-120V Contactor •Model: WRNK-171 Thermocoupler Got everything wired per Teds Schematic off his website and the PID comes on and i can set the Temp and hear... Long story short my old oven control setup Bit the dust...LOL

So i bought these parts:

SYL-2342 PID From Auberins
•Model: CN-PBC402-120V Contactor
•Model: WRNK-171 Thermocoupler

Got everything wired per Teds Schematic off his website and the PID comes on and i can set the Temp and hear the Contactor Click on , but no heat to the Elements ?

This is a pic of the old setup i was using for 7-years.. BTW im only running 3-3000watt elements..

]]> Oven Building Forum RNMHRD http://forum.caswellplating.com/oven-building-forum/11804-pid-contactor-wiring-help-needed-asap.html http://forum.caswellplating.com/oven-building-forum/11795-getting-prepared.html Tue, 31 Aug 2010 00:27:30 GMT This fall/winter I am going to start to rip apart my household oven and make a larger one with the top and bottom burners from the existing one. I am wanting to make it roughly 2 x 2 x 5 feet long (or tall). Will the two burners be enough from the existing oven to heat up this one? I am going to... This fall/winter I am going to start to rip apart my household oven and make a larger one with the top and bottom burners from the existing one. I am wanting to make it roughly 2 x 2 x 5 feet long (or tall). Will the two burners be enough from the existing oven to heat up this one? I am going to use metal studs, steel for the inside and out and 1 1/2" mineral wool for lining.

Also, should it be longer rather than taller? And if so, where would I place the two burners for optimal usage, at the bottom like if it was taller, or on the sides and towards the bottoms? Thanks. ]]> Oven Building Forum missile150 http://forum.caswellplating.com/oven-building-forum/11795-getting-prepared.html http://forum.caswellplating.com/oven-building-forum/11792-oven-question.html Sat, 28 Aug 2010 13:58:22 GMT Hello, Im new to all of this and have a question that Im sure many know the answer to.
I have a chance to get a free walk in cooler (8' x 12')with door (no floor). It is metal clad inside and out but I think they are dense foam filled. Would this make a good oven or would the foam catch fire and burnup or perhaps let off poison fumes? If this would work for a oven what could one heat the large room with. thanks from a newbee. ]]> Oven Building Forum cruzin http://forum.caswellplating.com/oven-building-forum/11792-oven-question.html http://forum.caswellplating.com/oven-building-forum/11783-wiring.html Thu, 26 Aug 2010 00:19:32 GMT Hey guys I am finally in the wiring stage of the build, What kind of wire did you guys use... is it high temp wire? Hey guys I am finally in the wiring stage of the build, What kind of wire did you guys use... is it high temp wire? ]]> Oven Building Forum Dobo668 http://forum.caswellplating.com/oven-building-forum/11783-wiring.html http://forum.caswellplating.com/oven-building-forum/11782-using-110v-oven.html Wed, 25 Aug 2010 19:18:05 GMT I am planning on picking up a used oven and builing my own 3x3x2 oven using the elements, controls, etc from the used oven. My million dollar question is do I have to use 220V. The reason I ask is I know for a dryer 110V is for the heating element and 110V is for the motor that spins the drum. ... I am planning on picking up a used oven and builing my own 3x3x2 oven using the elements, controls, etc from the used oven. My million dollar question is do I have to use 220V.

The reason I ask is I know for a dryer 110V is for the heating element and 110V is for the motor that spins the drum. So, I was curious if an oven was the same and 110V was for the oven portion and 110V for the stovetop portion. If so, since I wont be using the stovetop portion could I wire the elements and controls to 110V?

Hopefully that makes sense. ]]> Oven Building Forum nvr8nf http://forum.caswellplating.com/oven-building-forum/11782-using-110v-oven.html http://forum.caswellplating.com/oven-building-forum/11780-propane-torpedo-heater.html Tue, 24 Aug 2010 21:13:53 GMT building my first oven and don`t want to do this twice, im leaning more towards a propane torpedo heater seems it would be less coastly to run and maybe cheaper to build,If im wrong i would like to know so corect me if im wrong ,money is a big issue here.My oven would be 3x3x6 feet high , can... building my first oven and don`t want to do this twice, im leaning more towards a propane torpedo heater seems it would be less coastly to run and maybe cheaper to build,If im wrong i would like to know so corect me if im wrong ,money is a big issue here.My oven would be 3x3x6 feet high , can aneyone who hase built a torpedo oven please tell me how many BTU`s the torpedo hase to be and maybe please send pix of there set up .and how do u regulate the heat? ]]> Oven Building Forum fishin4bass http://forum.caswellplating.com/oven-building-forum/11780-propane-torpedo-heater.html http://forum.caswellplating.com/oven-building-forum/11773-gas-oven.html Sun, 22 Aug 2010 21:39:33 GMT Is there any reason why most of these ovens are electric instead of gas .hase anyone built one to run of natural gas sucessfully? Is there any reason why most of these ovens are electric instead of gas .hase anyone built one to run of natural gas sucessfully? ]]> Oven Building Forum fishin4bass http://forum.caswellplating.com/oven-building-forum/11773-gas-oven.html http://forum.caswellplating.com/oven-building-forum/11771-help-wiring-modified-oven.html Sat, 21 Aug 2010 01:36:32 GMT Hi, I'm new at this but want to go to a bigger oven so I cut the back from one and add a second one to it giving me a 36" deep oven. I am using one 3000 watt element, this is all that will be on the line . Question is what size line should I use for one element ? Also I'm just going to use the one temp control from the oven with a main breaker switch I can shut off when not in use, how can I wire this ? ]]> Oven Building Forum buffer http://forum.caswellplating.com/oven-building-forum/11771-help-wiring-modified-oven.html http://forum.caswellplating.com/oven-building-forum/11768-wiring-diagram-needed.html Fri, 20 Aug 2010 15:28:41 GMT I have recently Completed my 4x6x6 oven and controller. it is a 240v oven with a auburn PID, contactors, 5 elements, a fan and no light. flipped the switch and everything works, exccept the contactors do not energize and turn the elemnts on. my question does anyone have a clear 240v wiring... I have recently Completed my 4x6x6 oven and controller. it is a 240v oven with a auburn PID, contactors, 5 elements, a fan and no light. flipped the switch and everything works, exccept the contactors do not energize and turn the elemnts on.

my question does anyone have a clear 240v wiring schematic?

thank you very much. ]]> Oven Building Forum timberfab http://forum.caswellplating.com/oven-building-forum/11768-wiring-diagram-needed.html http://forum.caswellplating.com/oven-building-forum/11761-building-my-own-over.html Thu, 19 Aug 2010 18:58:00 GMT So i've got a regular house hold oven but want to make a bigger one, I can use all the heating elements and stuff out of the oven i have, and build my own box, Can i just use fiber glass insulation on it? Also will one heating element be enough for 3x3x6, It doesn't matter to me if it takes a long time to heat up just as long as it works. ]]> Oven Building Forum GlennFarrington http://forum.caswellplating.com/oven-building-forum/11761-building-my-own-over.html http://forum.caswellplating.com/oven-building-forum/11747-extending-household-oven.html Mon, 16 Aug 2010 12:29:22 GMT I am interested in building an adapting box to place on the open door of my standard kitchen PC oven to put in longer items. What would be the best way to do this, and what type of material should I use? I was thinking of some of that foil backed insulation board to make it light and collapsable,... I am interested in building an adapting box to place on the open door of my standard kitchen PC oven to put in longer items. What would be the best way to do this, and what type of material should I use? I was thinking of some of that foil backed insulation board to make it light and collapsable, then I can take it off and just ust the regular oven for my smaller parts again. Thanks for your advice in advance. ]]> Oven Building Forum missile150 http://forum.caswellplating.com/oven-building-forum/11747-extending-household-oven.html