What Would Be...........

[baz]

Originally Posted by mpierich

Hmmmm...wouldn't it be more efficient to go straight to the greaseless? Just asking - maybe I lost track of something here...

maybe i wasn t clear ,but that is what i was trying to say .
i was saying that yes you could smooth out the part a little by blasting BUT it would be faster just to do it with greaseless (and some cartrige rolls for tight areas)
sorry if i wasn t clear

[mpierich]

Originally Posted by baz

maybe i wasn t clear ,but that is what i was trying to say .
i was saying that yes you could smooth out the part a little by blasting BUT it would be faster just to do it with greaseless (and some cartrige rolls for tight areas)
sorry if i wasn t clear

Oh OK.

Hey Baz, do you have a fix for the problem of waiting for the greaseless to dry? I really can't afford to have ten of the same wheel always prepped and ready with a given grit, so I have to keep re-applying the greasless. Even using a heat gun to dry it, it still doubles the time it takes. If it weren't for that time issue I would do most everything with the stuff. Only way around it I come up with is to use rolls etc. on the curved parts and then go over it with the greaseless to get rid of the marks.

If somebody could come up with an adhesive like the setup wheel stuff but that didn't get so darn hard, it would be much better.

[grommit]

hallow baz, am going to get some more greaseless, av dabbled but i ended up going back to the cartridge rolls.
tng21 is stickin with the polishing and i have steered to PC'in as we live a couple of miles apart looking good to help each other out. he is knockin some really fine parts with his pollishing as i just haven't had the time with work overlapping into my evenings and weekends the last few months.so who knows what 2008 will bring he is really eager to give up his day job and do pollishing full time, but you know the pitfalls of doing that.i have a Audi TT wheel for him to play with and see how he does polishing it.can you advise a PC clear coat?
look at the bad condition the man has let these go, the others arnt that better either.

i think polishing will be out of the question as alot of the rims are so fine and one or two have broken away,with PC'in it would be easy to refurb and hide.
catchya lata
Bri
UK

[Tng21]

Hi all, pleny of replie to look through there.

mpierich i too find the drying time on greasless a pain in the butt. I use a hairdryer instead which dries it off pretty quickly. But still a pain puttin it on every few minutes. One thing i havent got though is grealess glue. I just put greaseless straight on my mops but on this site ( link below ) there seems to be a glue to put on the mops before the grealess goes on.

http://www.thepolishingshop.co.uk/ac...Compound_.html

As Grommit says, i hope to get good enough so i can tell my boss where to shove it, specially after today. SO i need to find out the tools to do my work quickly without sacrifising quality. Quality is most important to me as thats what will get me my business going.

On the vibratory machines, i havent looked into these. Seen a site with some on but not sure about prices or what sized ones i could get or anything. Anyone got more advice on these?

[baz]

Originally Posted by mpierich

Oh OK.

Hey Baz, do you have a fix for the problem of waiting for the greaseless to dry? I really can't afford to have ten of the same wheel always prepped and ready with a given grit, so I have to keep re-applying the greasless. Even using a heat gun to dry it, it still doubles the time it takes. If it weren't for that time issue I would do most everything with the stuff. Only way around it I come up with is to use rolls etc. on the curved parts and then go over it with the greaseless to get rid of the marks.

If somebody could come up with an adhesive like the setup wheel stuff but that didn't get so darn hard, it would be much better.

hi ,no i don t really have a fix , i have lots of buffing wheels so i always have a few already dried i have 3 x 3hp buffers so that makes for 6 places to mount my wheels if needed,and for smaller wheels i have about dozen of mounted 3 inch x1 inch wheels with greaseless on them ready to mount on my die grinder but to be honest i do most of the rough job with sanders ,abrasive discs and cartrige rolls etc.
i don t have time to mess around with hairdryers and other stuff , but if i have to wait for buffs to dry i just work on some other parts while waiting.
you could also use that glue that tng21 mentioned earlier , it makes the greaseless last longer but it also makes a harder wheel and i think it has to be applied when the wheel is new , some people like it but i tried it a couple of times and i didn t really like it

[baz]

Originally Posted by Tng21

Hi all, pleny of replie to look through there.

mpierich i too find the drying time on greasless a pain in the butt. I use a hairdryer instead which dries it off pretty quickly. But still a pain puttin it on every few minutes. One thing i havent got though is grealess glue. I just put greaseless straight on my mops but on this site ( link below ) there seems to be a glue to put on the mops before the grealess goes on.

http://www.thepolishingshop.co.uk/ac...Compound_.html

As Grommit says, i hope to get good enough so i can tell my boss where to shove it, specially after today. SO i need to find out the tools to do my work quickly without sacrifising quality. Quality is most important to me as thats what will get me my business going.

On the vibratory machines, i havent looked into these. Seen a site with some on but not sure about prices or what sized ones i could get or anything. Anyone got more advice on these?

to do quality work is one thing , to do a job fast is another thing , but to do a quality job fast is a whole different thing.
what i mean by that is if you do a job for a friend and you charge the guy like 50$it s not really important how long it takes to do or if there is few defects on the part BUT when you do it as a full time business , customers are way more demanding so you must deliver high quality work and at the same time you have to do it so that it brings you x amount of $ per hour to cover your salary and all the expenses , if that is what you want you will get there but my only advice is " take your time take it one step at a time do the job right and speed will come with experience"

[mpierich]

Originally Posted by Tng21

Hi all, pleny of replie to look through there.

mpierich i too find the drying time on greasless a pain in the butt. I use a hairdryer instead which dries it off pretty quickly. But still a pain puttin it on every few minutes. One thing i havent got though is grealess glue. I just put greaseless straight on my mops but on this site ( link below ) there seems to be a glue to put on the mops before the grealess goes on.

http://www.thepolishingshop.co.uk/ac...Compound_.html

As Grommit says, i hope to get good enough so i can tell my boss where to shove it, specially after today. SO i need to find out the tools to do my work quickly without sacrifising quality. Quality is most important to me as thats what will get me my business going.

On the vibratory machines, i havent looked into these. Seen a site with some on but not sure about prices or what sized ones i could get or anything. Anyone got more advice on these?

The greaseless stick has a glue in it, that's how it is able to stick at all.

A vibe wouldn't be feasible for me right now, but for mass finishing I think they would save a lot of time.

[mpierich]

Originally Posted by baz

hi ,no i don t really have a fix , i have lots of buffing wheels so i always have a few already dried i have 3 x 3hp buffers so that makes for 6 places to mount my wheels if needed,and for smaller wheels i have about dozen of mounted 3 inch x1 inch wheels with greaseless on them ready to mount on my die grinder but to be honest i do most of the rough job with sanders ,abrasive discs and cartrige rolls etc.
i don t have time to mess around with hairdryers and other stuff , but if i have to wait for buffs to dry i just work on some other parts while waiting.
you could also use that glue that tng21 mentioned earlier , it makes the greaseless last longer but it also makes a harder wheel and i think it has to be applied when the wheel is new , some people like it but i tried it a couple of times and i didn t really like it

Like I said, looks like it's best for finishing over the cart rolls etc.

If you're tlaking about the "setup wheel" glue, it does get too hard to be of much use except for very rough work.

[mpierich]

Originally Posted by baz

to do quality work is one thing , to do a job fast is another thing , but to do a quality job fast is a whole different thing.
what i mean by that is if you do a job for a friend and you charge the guy like 50$it s not really important how long it takes to do or if there is few defects on the part BUT when you do it as a full time business , customers are way more demanding so you must deliver high quality work and at the same time you have to do it so that it brings you x amount of $ per hour to cover your salary and all the expenses , if that is what you want you will get there but my only advice is " take your time take it one step at a time do the job right and speed will come with experience"

Words of wisdom...it's a tough row to hoe, which is why I have no illusions of making a living at it right now. However, when I retire it'll be a dynamite source of extra money.

I have found that integrity and honesty go a long way toward getting repeat customers. If I can't get something perfect, I tell them so and I knock off a few dollars. I have almost no complaints handling it that way.

[baz]

Originally Posted by mpierich

Like I said, looks like it's best for finishing over the cart rolls etc.

If you're tlaking about the "setup wheel" glue, it does get too hard to be of much use except for very rough work.

no its not the set up glue , i know it gets real hard i still have some here
the glue i am talking about comes in a (sausage form)like the greaseless i get
it is like a sticky foam kind of texture . it is usually applied on the spiaral buffs when new before applying the greaseless ,it kind of makes a base coat to treat the buff before the greaseless