Learning about electrics....slowly!

[grommit]

hello all,
been a while since i posted about electrics it has normally been reference the fabrication of an oven. but today one of the electricians at work had a cuppa and in speak that i can understand explained about my set up and other things.
remembering i am in the UK, but i know ED DENU and the gang will be able to give sound advice as usual.
my drama is that where i intend to PC there is only a ring main circuit (one of 18 garages) each with 1 240V socket.the Electrician eventually got into my solid head that any oven needs its own dedicated line, is it 32 amp in the UK(not sure) but iam now sure that my donor parts for my oven such as the elements will not be big enough,and without its own dedicated line i am up against it secondly it is a works garage and i will not get permission to have a line fitted, if it was my property then it would not be a problem, just cost for an electrician to do the work.
any advice help to cheer me up would be appreciated.
sorry if what i wrote doesn't sound exacxtly what the electrician did actually say, but you will know exactly.
talk to you all soon,away now 300mile to pick the wife up from the inlaws,hope she is grateful i am giving up my weekend in the garage.
grommit
UK

[ed_denu]

Wow, That's a real kick in the butt. If I understand correctly the space you are in only furnishes a single outlet which is not sufficient for your oven. If you cannot get permission from the property owners to add a circuit for the oven, then your choices are limited.

I don't recall your oven size, but would it be possible to either partition the oven off to a smaller size(for now), or downsize the elements, or both. It may take longer to heat, but there aren't a lot of choices unless you would switch to a gas burner of some sort.

[FigureLLC]

Originally Posted by ed_denu

switch to a gas burner of some sort.

that's the ticket. a glow bar pulls 3.6 amps from a 120V circuit. hook up a propane tank and your golden.

[baz]

Originally Posted by grommit

hello all,
been a while since i posted about electrics it has normally been reference the fabrication of an oven. but today one of the electricians at work had a cuppa and in speak that i can understand explained about my set up and other things.
remembering i am in the UK, but i know ED DENU and the gang will be able to give sound advice as usual.
my drama is that where i intend to PC there is only a ring main circuit (one of 18 garages) each with 1 240V socket.the Electrician eventually got into my solid head that any oven needs its own dedicated line, is it 32 amp in the UK(not sure) but iam now sure that my donor parts for my oven such as the elements will not be big enough,and without its own dedicated line i am up against it secondly it is a works garage and i will not get permission to have a line fitted, if it was my property then it would not be a problem, just cost for an electrician to do the work.
any advice help to cheer me up would be appreciated.
sorry if what i wrote doesn't sound exacxtly what the electrician did actually say, but you will know exactly.
talk to you all soon,away now 300mile to pick the wife up from the inlaws,hope she is grateful i am giving up my weekend in the garage.
grommit
UK

hi grommit , if you are( not sure) like you wrote about the amout of amps available there is no drama yet .
your first step would be to verify with the owner . once you know the exact figure (how many amps available ) then you can calculate to see how many elements you can use.
when you say 1 of 18 garages are you talking about commercial garages where you can operate a business
i know you re in UK but here in canada where my shop is 1 building but 12 different garages . 1 main line then each garage has a transformer with 110 and 220 volts. maximum 30 amps
that is the basic that is supplied with the garage but you can add a bigger transformer like i did . now i m running 10,000 watts oven 2 compressors 1 5 hp 1 5hp 3 x 3 hp industrial buffers 220 volt dust collector and i still have room for more. might be different for you but it s worth checking into