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Old 12-09-2003, 11:49 AM
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I've only posted a few times so far but do read the post quite frequently. This is a great site!

As for my question. I'm a custom fishing rod builder. I want to change the color of the guide frames. The guide rings themselves are usually a type of ceramic or zirconian. Would the guide rings be coated along with the frames? There was a discussion of this on a rod building board and they said the guide rings would be coated because they could be charged with staic electricty.

I haven't bought the powder coating kit yet but I will next month. My wife says I can't take on any new hobbies till after Christmas. I can't wait to get started experimenting in powder coating and hopefully I will be able to post pictures of my results worthy of sharing. You guys have posted some really COOL work! I like seeing those pics!

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Old 12-09-2003, 12:19 PM
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Steve...... thanks for finally posting! I see you in here from time to time and always wondered when you were gonna come join us,lol. I feel for ya on the "wife says" deal. I'd call up and order now... have it all sent for you to play with on Dec 26th . When it comes to the door from the big brown truck.... turn to your wife and say "honey, I knew you had one more gift to give me.... it's JUST what I wanted" then quickly take the box and run off to the garage,ha ha ha ha. I have car parts arriving the same way.... we'll see if it works out.

Anyways.... I have no idea about zirconian holding a charge or not but traditionally ceramic is an insulator and very poor conductor of electricity. I suppose there's ways around that by possibly heating up your part and then coating or some such. As you've no doubt read.... we've found ways around these things before

As for the pictures posted so far.... they rock, don't they? I love when the powder crew steps up to the plate to show off. But then again.... maybe I'm biased in that area. I certainly hope you post yours as well to "show off" a bit. After all.... that's kind of what it's there for. It's amazing what the "hobbyist" can do these days, isn't it? Thanks again for posting,bud.... it's nice to notice you come down off the perch up there to visit us for a spell. best to you and all that read this as always...... Russ
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Old 12-11-2003, 03:58 PM
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I have heard of fiberglass being coated, that is as much info as I know. I know they make low temp cure powders, such as using on MDF ie wood. Maybe what they used on fiberglass was the same thing, i dunno. But gave me an idea for trying it sometime, on a junk part of course in a metal bucket so no cleaning up of the mess. lol
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Old 12-11-2003, 09:46 PM
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If it's not conductive then make it conductive. I use a product from Peerless/Peidmont Coatings for powder coating MDF (wood). It's Electro-Prep #15-LT-1039. This is a conductive clear coating that you spray on in liquid form and and once dry it leaves a conductive film on the surface. It works for plastic and wood, however be forwarned this stuff is extremely corrosive and has very bad fumes. I really don't recommend it for the home hobbiest but there are other products on the market that work similarly.

If this product conflicts with Caswell policies please edit post.
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Old 12-11-2003, 09:50 PM
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if I knew well enough what product Caswell offers in a liquid that does what that one you just said does, I'd probably edit. I gotta be honest, I wanna say silvaspray but I'm speaking out of turn on that one. I've personally never had to use anything like that and once again.... yiled the floor to somebody more knowledgeable about what would work or not. Just for forum sake... take a cruise over to "conductive coatings" and see what's up first,please. Thanks

(if anybody has a like-product link here to the Caswell site, please post)
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Old 12-12-2003, 12:48 PM
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That is an interesting product you spoke of Dale, I may check that out sometime. Tell me though, where or who uses PCed MDF I have never been asked that one, and at times it is hard for me to experiment with oddball stuff, not enough time in the day. Please let me in on this, thanks
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Old 12-12-2003, 03:58 PM
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p/cing is used a lot on office furniture & the like, apparently it is becoming big demand in the furniture trade.
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We have never tried/or had anyone else try, powder coating over Silvaspray (a conductive silver paint).

If anyone is willing to give it a try and document the test and results for us, please e-mail sales@caswellplating.com. We'll send a free can for testing.
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It's being used in office furniture,cabinets(including kitchen), even seen MDF games like gumball dispensors and pinball machines useing it. You must use a very high quality MDF and the biggest problem is dealing with the internal moisture. Definately a better product for UV cure powders,they are short bake times and the core temp never gets high enough to cause outgassing.If you hit the right temp on preheat the moisture comes to the surface and you can scip the conductive spray step and use the moisture as your conductive point of attraction.
Sorry kinda got of the original topic.
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Old 12-13-2003, 06:38 AM
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If anyone is willing to give it a try and document the test and results for us, please e-mail sales@caswellplating.com. We'll send a free can for testing.
That's what I'm talkin' about folks. We don't have all the answers but boy, we sure do step up to the plate for our own when looking for them,huh? Can't beat a freebie. I hope somebody takes advantage of this offer..... Russ

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