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Old 09-25-2007, 05:48 PM
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Question got the Caswell gun now need advice on powder

Hello all,
after months and months of learning from here, i bought the Caswell gun system, got an oven and all the other bits needed, but now its time to do my projects i would really appreciate help on what powder to buy.
my friend wants his clutch/brake levers and other small parts on his motorbike coated in white, looking on the caswell Europe site all the types of powder is confusing me, all i can do is guess so i will ask instead what you experts would use, coz not everyone will have the same advice, but i am a 1st timer so that may narrow things down on what i should use.
white powder i would imagine could be tricky if not done right, giving an instant sighting of any problems.

Standard Powder Coatings
Indoor Use Powder Coatings
Metallic Powder Coatings
Candy Top Coats
High Temperature Powder Coatings
Illusions Powder Coatings
RAL Powder Coatings .

these are causing confusion.
please help on the best powder all round for me to start with.
cant wait to show pics of my first project to make me feel proud.
catchya all soon
take care
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Old 09-25-2007, 09:04 PM
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This thread should help.
http://forum.eastwoodco.com/showthre...wder+chemistry
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Old 09-25-2007, 10:25 PM
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Well you want mostly a normal all weather white powder I guess, that knocks out most of your specs

Standard Powder Coatings ............. Standard powders for most uses.

Indoor Use Powder Coatings .......... Indoor powders for items kept indoors, metal furniture, plant stands etc...

Metallic Powder Coatings ............. Like Metallic paint, has pretty sparkles and such. May contain metal pigments like a chrome color perhaps, need a top coat to seal it.


Candy Top Coats .............. It's a semi clear tinted powder to let the base coat show though, good over chrome, gold, other colors to make a nice Candy effect like a fancy paint job would be.

High Temperature Powder Coatings ................... For use on things the get pretty hot in use, exhausts might be one of many uses.

Illusions Powder Coatings .......... Gives a color changing effect, used over a dark color normally for best effect. Look from the right at part may look brownish or black, move a little and part may look red. Several collor change tints to choose from.

RAL Powder Coatings ..... I knew but forgot now, I think that's a match up to a manufactor paint color, only listed is British racing green, Maybe by specail order we good get Racing Orange, Ford Blue, or other special colors in a near perfect match?

For fancy stuff you can also get from Caswell stuff to add to the powders, like a Red, Gold, Blue sort of metallic, also glow additives.

If you just want plain white the standard normal white is probably all you need, course it might be neat to add the glow powder to that white for a neat night time effect LOL
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hello Harleydad and Chromo,
many thanks again for your much appreciated help, i am sure you gave me a link to a supplier on Ebay Harleydad? could be wrong, but he never got back to me.
Chromo tell me more on the special effect on the white you mentioned, sounds interesting.
just when i was having a bad day at work, there out in one of the catering yards where a large upright freezer, 2 windowed chiller cabinets and one of the biggest chest freezers i have ever saw...i have been looking for a donor for making an oven...needless to say all are stored and i will get imense help off the oven forum.
i want to do alloy wheels for a handfull of my friends, so i am looking forward researching on these.
thank you very much for your time.
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Old 09-27-2007, 12:44 AM
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Caswell offers lots of specs and knowledge on their products, reading their product info, manuals etc.. help allot.
http://caswellplating.com/powder/index.html

Right side, Powder Coating Colors, choose the link you want. More info than I can provide really myself.
Third section down on right, Powder Coating Additives, has the glow and metalics.
http://caswellplating.com/powder/additives.html

Often many things on same page even though it shows different links to make it easier to find.
Red, Blue, Gold & Silver Additives, like a metalic and also Prism Additive says A kaleidoscope of colors are in this prism additive. Go prism or pick a color, I plan to mix my own 4 for my hot rod and old 50's GMC truck when I get ready to do them.

Glow, top of that page, Glow in The Dark Additive, I may be using allot of this also, I live near Branson, MO and august each each they have a Cruising lights, kinda a parade of hot rods and show cars, they close down 76 around 11pm-12pm and cars cruise about 2 hours or so. Great event, I missed it this year. Being a night cruise the glow may show, not sure with theater and street lights though.

"Our Glow In The Dark powder coating additive is a class of newly developed phosphorescent (glow-in-the-dark) pigments which are based on Strontium Oxide Aluminate Chemistry. They are drastically different from conventional phosphorescent pigments which are either based on Zinc Sulfide or on radioisotopes for their self-luminous properties.
* Afterglow period of ten times current ZnS based phosphorescent pigments.
* Initial afterglow brightness of up to ten times that of conventional phosphorescent pigments.
* Increase in luminescence and afterglow with longer activation time
* Excellent weather and light fastness
* Free of hazardous and radioactive substances
* 3 oz of additive treats 1 lb of powder
* Sift into your powder 2-3 times with a sifter for proper mixing.
* Works best in light colored powders and clears."

Caswell has some neat stuff!
If your doing paint also like autobody, might want to check "House OF Color" for specail paints and additives. They had a good glow powder for paint, some varies colors other than greenish, I think oranges and yellow, maybe blueish, add to paint.
Been many years since I did hotrods and just getting back into them again, I hope HOF is still there and has all I used to buy, I'll need it before long!
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Old 09-27-2007, 07:48 AM
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Hello CHROMO,
a big thankyou for replying so quickly, i spent a long time looking at the colours last night, so much my wife is getting worried that everything in the house will go missing and then returned powder coated.....only the things not bolted down.
it will some way off before i tackle multiple coats, illusion etc but after all these months i feel the bug getting bigger.off in the garage all weeked got a full set of Alloy wheels, BMW air cleaner box to paint and A BMW valve cover to finish polishing.SO IF YOU ARE READING THIS MY WIFE, DEAL WITH IT!
thnking of your hotrod parades makes me jealous, all i see are the one or too hardened enthusiasts with their American muscle cars cruising on a summers day, i always wanted a 55,56 or 57 Cheve, but instead my first hotrod build was a Morris Minor Post office Van, rover V6 engine, candy red, but the crushed velvet interior in red was very expensive.
the glow in the dark has got me thinking about my Royal Enfield 500 Bullet i have stripped (another project my wife is not happy with!)

well its time to get back to work, the boss (Fun Police!)has been in and sucked all the atmosphere away.
take care,
loads of Pics to follow
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Old 09-27-2007, 11:01 PM
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YA, my newest hotrod after a few recent years just looking is going to be a total custom build from the ground up. I have 3 Ford vans I plan to strip for parts for this, and some other stuff too. There is no cure for the bug, once you got it you got it forever! It may go dormant for a year or two, but then it flares back up! LOL

Not decided for sure about my 50's GMC truck exactly how I am doing it yet.

My biggest problem right now is flash rust! Parts rust after blasting faster than I can clean and coat them
Blasted 6 small parts tonight, 2 I did not coat because of flash rust, have to reblast tommorow and do them I guess. Not happy tonight.
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