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  • Greaseless compund please help

    Could someone please give me an idea how to use this stuff? Its like the firmness of a rubber mallet. Is it suppose to be liquid? Because mine surely is not. Just received it from caswell today. Tried applying it an big chunks just fly off. Seems pretty useless to me. Ive never used greaseless before and it came with zero instructions. Are you suppose to add water or something mix it up then apply it and let it dry?

    Thanks for any help i searched and got nothing

  • #2
    i had the same problem .... to load it turn the machine on .. and lightly push the compound on to it ,, the heat from the pad will draw the compound on.. i use my compound on a 3/4 hp buffer and it is better to use a lower rpm ... i just finished up the stuff i got from caswell and i used it for everthing .... when you get the hang of it it will work great for you ..... my stuff was like a rubber to ... i put it on and wait a few minutes and it last around 25 min.. use it on a sprial pad


    • #3
      How do you use a lower RPM?

      I tried the on/off thing but blew my breaker. :P


      • #4
        I turn the buffer on, let it get to speed then shut it off. As soon as the power is off, I press the compound to the wheel with good pressure. I have to repeat this 4-5 times to get a decent load on the wheel.


        • #5
          Another thing you might want to try is what I do, use a drill to load the wheels you can control the RPM's that way. The wheel loads up very nicely and you can get a good even coat on them.


          • #6
            I have the same problem but with felt bobs... just cant seem to get it to last. I put it on, wait several minutes and then it just flies off and wears the bob... any hints?


            • #7
              Greasless compound

              I might be using this differently than you. To us, this compound is called satin and is used on a satin wheel. It is equal to a 180 grit belt. Satin needs to be used "wet", therefore, needs to be reapplied frequently. Apply to wheel, wait a second so it dries a little, and then sand your piece. Should be kept in refrigerator when not in use or it dries out causing the chunking. We use this to remove build-ups on metals as it goes much quicker than black and can be used on parts you don't want to belt but need the extra cutting action. Sounds like your tube has dried up and now isn't any good. Keep in refrigerator with moist paper towel--we use Pringles cans.

              It is messy to work with and particles will fly off as well as leaving you a pile at the base of your working area. However, for some jobs, it's the best thing since sliced bread.


              • #8
                To apply the greaseless I use the on/off method...or, since I use a slow (1/3 hp 1350 rpm) motor for greaseless, I hold the stick against the wheel with pressure, _then_ turn it on and use the pressure to control the wheel speed. Will eventually burn out the motor but they're a dime a dozen. BTW I use 80/120/220/320 and they work great, but might try going to setup wheels instead since they are more permanent.


                • #9
                  For greaseless compound to work there are two variables that have to be correct: heat and pressure. Without enough heat, the compound will do like what you said, which is fly off in chunks. The trick to getting it started is to get your buff running at a higher RPM than what you'll actually polish at. This way, you can apply the buff to the compound starting off with a light touch to gradually heat the surface, and then quickly add pressure until you almost bog the buff down. You're going to get some chunks flying at the start, but as the compound begins to heat from the pressure it will eventually meld onto the buff. BE PATIENT! Once you actually get the compound started onto the buff, it gets easier and easier to apply more as you need it.

                  Also, something to remember is that greaseless tends to dry from the outside in. In other words, let's say you get your buff loaded with compound, and wait a few seconds and touch the compound, and find that it's dry. This can sometimes be deceiving. If you get the compound on there really thick, the stuff on the outside will dry first making a "shell," but the compound underneath that's actually touching the buff may still be wet. If you're running at high RPM's, the wet compound underneath won't hold firm enough to the buff so it will end up flying off. The bottom line is, you can either load the buff with smaller amounts of compound and have shorter usage periods, or you can load it up thicker but have to wait longer durations of time in between buffing sessions for it to adequately dry. This sounds more complicated than it is. Just get in there and mess around with it for awhile and this stuff will just come to you. Hope that helps.
                  "Some people are like sandpaper: they may delight in the misery they inflict by rubbing up against you, but in the end you will come out smooth and polished while they'll just be ugly, wrinkled, and used up." - Beyonce Knowles