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    i am assuming that the alligator clip that you connect to the part you are coating is grounded to the chasis of the compressor, which is grounded to your wall outlet, assuming it has a ground port. my question is if you have an old style plug can you just take your alligator clip and attach it to an earth ground?? i believe all grouned electrical circuits are ground to an eight foot ground rod anyways. just want to make sure this is all correct.

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    Hey, I am new to coating also have not actually done it, but I think you are suppose to be grounding the actually part.(Alligator+Part)=electrostatic bound of powder to metal. I am a novice so make sure you know for sure before you try it.

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    • #3
      i should have been more clear. i am talking about taking an alligator clip and clipping it to the part being coated, and attaching it to a wire that goes straight to an earth grounding rod, not the machines grounding wire.

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      • #4
        You guys are confusing ME.. and I've been doing this PC stuff for awhile.

        Suspend your part with wire off a metal rack. the clip the aligator clip to the metal rack holding the part. The part you are PC'ing just needs the ground to the powder coating box. Not to a stake in the ground or a lightning rod on top of your roof. :P

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        • #5
          jagboy, i understand that part. if you look at most standard plugs, they have 2 or 3 prongs. the ones with 3 prongs have a ground (the round prong) the plugs with only 2 do not have a ground, therefor your machine is not grouned like it should be, and i dont think the alligator clip comming from the machine will not work.

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          • #6
            The "clip" ground is on the DC side of the transformer and common to the AC side... the "clip" must go to the part.
            It would be a good idea to ground the AC side of your machine too.
            IMHO

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            • #7
              by ground the ac side i am assuming you mean by the ground prong on the plug correct?? so if you do not have a 3 prong outlet with a ground how would you ground it?

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              • #8
                Yes, wire in a duplex receptacle (female) and get a ground somewhere. You can do the copper clad driving rod and bond it to that...or
                If you have a metallic water line near by you can bond it to that "IF" you make sure the line is bonded where it enters the house.

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                • #9
                  thanks popeye, thats the answer i was looking for.

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                  • #10
                    I still question WHY BOTHER?
                    The AC side of the system is not even in the same ballpark as the DC side. What's the point.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by cabrego
                      Hey, I am new to coating also have not actually done it, but I think you are suppose to be grounding the actually part.(Alligator+Part)=electrostatic bound of powder to metal. I am a novice so make sure you know for sure before you try it.
                      what are you a beginner or a novice?

                      the ground wire attiches to the hook or part the ground wire go's to the power box.. what you are doing is powering the powder and it is charged the ground will draw the powder to the part .. with out a proper ground you are going to have problems

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                      • #12
                        Re: grounding?

                        Originally posted by toxicd
                        i am assuming that the alligator clip that you connect to the part you are coating is grounded to the chasis of the compressor, which is grounded to your wall outlet, assuming it has a ground port. my question is if you have an old style plug can you just take your alligator clip and attach it to an earth ground?? i believe all grouned electrical circuits are ground to an eight foot ground rod anyways. just want to make sure this is all correct.

                        Not mine my ground is the copper water pipe heading north from the house ....

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                        • #13
                          custom, are you saying the clip you ground your parts to be coated with is grounded directly to your water pipe, and not the compressor?? that is what i planned on doing so i wouldnt have to rewire an outlet.

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                          • #14
                            toxicd,
                            Your 120 Volt Plug has a ground plug if your outlet does not have that ground plug (female side) then change the outlet to a new outlet w/ ground. Run that ground from the outlet to a water pipe that is bonded and your problem is fixed. The ground Clamp coming from the Box needs to go to the part you are Coating. These 2 grounds have nothing to do with each other. The ground on your power outlet does not even need to be hooked up. Its there so you do not get zapped if you have a short in your wire or standing in water.

                            Jim S...
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                            • #15
                              thank's jim!!!! contact caswell for tech support!!!!!!!

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