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    Ok, I got two brand new aluminum wheels to do for a guy. And a third as a test wheel. On the test wheel which was also new I wiped it down with acetone, baked it for 20 min @ 450 bare, let it cool to about 100 shot it with candy black translucent and baked it. It came out cool I think, kinda like a smoked chrome look. Now to the possible lie, he asked me if the wheels had a clear coat on them that had to come off. I told him no. Did I lie and how can you tell. And if so does it have to come off? Help. Thanks
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    Last edited by mikekozura; 02-17-2006, 06:19 PM.

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    Re: Did I lie

    Well the wheel may have a clear coat on them, I know all of the Harley stuff I do does have a clear coat painted on.. Found out the hard way.. So it depends on the supplier of the parts..

    Jim S...
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      if yo have an ohm meter test the other wheels if the read direct short or very low resistance it is not coated if it reads high it has a coating of some kind, also i would guess it is coated, other wise the manufacture would be getting alot of calls about oxidized rims from them just setting in the warehouses and then being handled.
      when in doubt polish it out/ why replace it when you can refinish it
      G2 Polishing and Powdercoating

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      • #4
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        If they had a clear coat, wouldn't acetone soften it and make it sticky, so that you'd notice it? Or is the stuff they clear coat with resistant to acetone? I've never wiped acetone on powder coat, so I don't know what happens.

        If an aluminum part is clear alodined, the top surface might show a high resistance. That's the case with some radio racks we bought, you have to dig into the surface a little bit to get conductivity. I don't know if they alodine wheels, though.
        Steve Dold
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        • #5
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          Ok there coated. What ever it is acetone or heat don't touch it. The guy was trying to scratch the first wheel with a quarter and could't get it to mark and was happy with it. So powder stuck to it pretty good. What should I do with these two there the ones going on the bike. I can't get a reading at all until I scratched the inside of the wheel with a file. Man I need to find out what to do I have another guy who whats wheels like this done. Help

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          • #6
            Re: Did I lie

            try spraying them down with easy off oven cleaner and let it set for about 5-10 minutes. then wipe a small area off and try the meter again. it it reads the rince and it should br ready to prep for powder. if not the let set a little longer and retry. if after 1/2 hr this does nothing then you may need to glass bead blast, or try paint stripper.
            when in doubt polish it out/ why replace it when you can refinish it
            G2 Polishing and Powdercoating

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            • #7
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              OK paint stripper did't touch it. I guess it needs glass beaded. What do you think it is?

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              • #8
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                Originally posted by mikekozura
                OK paint stripper did't touch it. I guess it needs glass beaded. What do you think it is?
                What kind of paint stripper? Was it Aircraft remover? or what? Some removers will not touch some of teh clear coats. Find out where the person bought the wheels, contact them and ask them what the clear coat is they used. This will help you in using the right stripper...

                Jim S...
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                • #9
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                  It's not the Aircraft remover. It's Mar-hyde Tal-stripe paint remover extra strength. The wheels are off a new Honda 450 dirt bike and say D.I.D Japan on them. I looked on Honda's web page for the [email protected] of it to see if it said something like clear anodized wheels or something. But I can't find anything.

                  My old lady going to pick me up a can of the Aircraft on her way home from work and I'll try that. Thanks
                  Last edited by mikekozura; 02-18-2006, 01:47 PM.

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                  • #10
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                    I dont know if this will help any.

                    http://www.did-daido.co.jp/en/index002.html
                    Unorthodox Creations Powdercoating

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                    • #11
                      Re: Did I lie

                      Originally posted by mikekozura
                      It's not the Aircraft remover. It's Mar-hyde Tal-stripe paint remover extra strength. The wheels are off a new Honda 450 dirt bike and say D.I.D Japan on them. I looked on Honda's web page for the [email protected] of it to see if it said something like clear anodized wheels or something. But I can't find anything.

                      My old lady going to pick me up a can of the Aircraft on her way home from work and I'll try that. Thanks
                      Remember there are 2 Versions of the Aircraft, The first being the good stuff the second being one called Low Odor which most autoparts store carry. I've only found the good stuff at bodyshop supply house's...

                      Jim S...
                      Jim Shuster
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                        OK this is the stuff I tried, and still no good. I checked out D.I.D's web site (thanks unorthodoxcreations) Did't find anything out but e-mail them. Will see if they get back to me. What do you think would happen if I coat over this coating? The test wheel seemed to stick pretty well. But I don't want to do something thats not right.
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                        • #13
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                          Originally posted by mikekozura
                          OK this is the stuff I tried, and still no good. I checked out D.I.D's web site (thanks unorthodoxcreations) Did't find anything out but e-mail them. Will see if they get back to me. What do you think would happen if I coat over this coating? The test wheel seemed to stick pretty well. But I don't want to do something thats not right.
                          This is what you need not the spray on stuff..

                          Jim S..
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                          Jim Shuster
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                          • #14
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                            Do you think that stuff will do it. And what about coating over whats on it.

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                            • #15
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                              Originally posted by mikekozura
                              Do you think that stuff will do it. And what about coating over whats on it.
                              I would worry about coating over it as the coating is a painted on surface.
                              I powdered a set of triple trees for a friend( thank god) and when they left here I could not scratch the surface. Now fast forward 2 weeks, the under coating ( or clear coating started to fail) started to peel and my Nice shiney black powder peeled with it.. Again thank god it was a friend that I could redo in a hurry and not a paying client that lived across country...

                              Jim S...
                              Jim Shuster
                              www.backyardpowdercoating.com Sold.....
                              www.chrissys68mustang.com Hobbie
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